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Saturday, 28 December 2013
Gin Carrera M & S
Gin Carrera
I flew a bit the M size but will wait for the S size to get a larger idea for a more accurate test report.
</div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/bF5rNthaQo0?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0' /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/oM54-z2lBDU?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0' /></div><span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /></span><span style="color: #cccccc;">Gin Carrera S </span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> 92 all up on the S size with a Woody Valley GTO harness, here i am flying the Carrera in a relatively weak to turbulent conditions sometimes especially on the higher layers, with 10 km/h north wind, making it interesting for discovering the ability of the flown gliders.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Having flown the M size at 98 all up, i found the S size at 92 to have a more direct handling of course ! And a bit more alive.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> But the glider was completely pressurized and it wasn’t susceptible to deflation whatsoever like the lesser loaded M size i flew earlier.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Describing the handling is light on the first part with a 50 % more tension after 40 cm of travel. It is lighter than the Delta 2 SM with same loadings. And i could also confirm the same agility in thermals.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Both gliders are efficient in climb with no diving in turns.<br /> I only could sense a slight float ability for the D2 in very weak thermals -0.2m/s …But the Carrera felt more floater in headwind glides or on its ability in searching forward for thermals !<br /> Strangely the Atlas had that superb ability as if this technology is indeed present on those new generation Gin gliders.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> If you ask me which is the most comfortable in overall conditions ?<br /> The Delta 2 feels more compact above your head, but when the conditions get rough, sharp surges must be controlled to prevent the collapses.<br /> On the same conditions the Carrera moves even in small conditions letting its pilot immediately presume that it is more alive. Actually i found that even in strong and bumpy conditions the Carrera doesn’t have that sharp quick reaction in turbulence like the D2. It just roll a bit more, but in a smoother way, letting its pilot feel that it is still above his head giving him that increased passive safety feeling.<br /> Both are pitch stable, and the roll is more pronounced on the Carrera.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> The movements are different from a sharp reaction like the Trango XC2, and closer to a Cayenne 4 with more ease and prompt brake control.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> The glide is similar or slightly better in lift lines than a Trango XC2 or a D2 with the ability to cut through the valley breeze even better than some 2012 ‘C’ gliders …Letting the Carrera free to surf the air without too much braking is the way to go.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> However the top speed is only 11 km over trim speed, even with the pulleys over-passing.<br /> In this configuration, the Carrera seems solid and usable with the first part of the travel which is light but the second part of the travel is a bit hard.<br /> Pulling a bit on the A’s in full accelerator mode showed that an average pull is needed to get the leading edge lowered a bit but without any sign of collapse.<br /> Gin may have reduced the top speed for certification purposes.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Big ears with the outer A’s are easy to pull .The opening is required by the pilot.<br /> Big ears with B3 are easy doable and practically has the same sink rate as the outer A’s but the opening is quite faster.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> 360’s get you down quickly .No real surges in getting out. Wing overs on the S are nice to make and could be very high.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Conclusion :<br /> Over the years, gliders has evolved in design and technology. Marketing also has caught up.<br /> Seeing and flying many high-end B’s, it seems logical that this leap in marketing strategy will eventually be present. <br /> The Carrera is for me a superb glider that has everything a good intermediate pilot could wish for, except for the top speed… </span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> The ‘psychological B rating effect’ could have a positive impact on the ‘C’ category pilots flying the Carrera.<br /> There’s no ‘B’ available yet that has the same into wind performance or the same roll understanding… <br /> One season on a high-end B, is needed before jumping on a Carrera.</span> <span style="color: #cccccc;"><br /> Happy landings,<br /> Ziad</span><br /><br /><span class="postbody"><span style="color: #999999;">Small clarification:</span> </span><br /><span style="color: #999999;"><span class="postbody">The Carrera got a B certification. What does that mean ? ...Only that it has very good reactions and behavior in a simulated collapse in calm air . <br />This is an excellent glider that must be respected as it is. <br />A pilot with enough experience and + 75 hours / year , can (extract) safely its performances. <br />The others with less experience will be busy keeping it controlled overhead in strong conditions and won't eventually use it's performance ! <br /> <br />That's why there's a lesser AR glider and manufacturer guidance that can allow many pilots to go for the Atlas which in my humble opinion is one of the best well balanced B glider of the moment ! as it has enough performance to satisfy nearly all Low B and some high B pilots. <br /> <br />Difference in comfort the air between Carrera M, Mentor 3 S, Chili 3 S, goes in favor of the M3, then the Carrera and Chili 3 are comfortably equal in punchy air with better authority control for the Carrera to place it exactly by the brakes. (must be loaded at 98 - 100 on the M ) <br />To compare a Carrera M to a Mentor 3 or a Chili 3 would be unfair ,because the Carrera will show it's potential in head wind glides and move forward like high aspect ratio gliders do... <br /> <br />The Carrera is intended for experienced pilots who needs the psychological safety of a B with the superb performance of a C glider. </span></span></div> <div style='clear: both;'></div> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-1'> <span class='post-author vcard'> </span> <span class='post-timestamp'> at <meta content='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/gin-carrera-m-s.html' itemprop='url'/> <a class='timestamp-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/gin-carrera-m-s.html' rel='bookmark' title='permanent link'><abbr class='published' itemprop='datePublished' title='2013-12-28T04:53:00-08:00'>December 28, 2013</abbr></a> </span> <span class='post-comment-link'> <a class='comment-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/gin-carrera-m-s.html#comment-form' onclick=''> No comments: </a> </span> <span class='post-icons'> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-212699807'> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&from=pencil' title='Edit Post'> <img alt='' class='icon-action' height='18' src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon18_edit_allbkg.gif' width='18'/> </a> </span> </span> <div class='post-share-buttons goog-inline-block'> <a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-email' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&target=email' target='_blank' title='Email This'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Email This</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-blog' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&target=blog' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=270,width=475"); return false;' target='_blank' title='BlogThis!'><span class='share-button-link-text'>BlogThis!</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-twitter' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&target=twitter' target='_blank' title='Share to X'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to X</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-facebook' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&target=facebook' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=430,width=640"); return false;' target='_blank' title='Share to Facebook'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to Facebook</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-pinterest' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=4789722032187844334&target=pinterest' target='_blank' title='Share to Pinterest'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to Pinterest</span></a> </div> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-2'> <span class='post-labels'> </span> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-3'> <span class='post-location'> </span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class='inline-ad'> <!--Can't find substitution for tag [adCode]--> </div> <div class='post-outer'> <div class='post hentry uncustomized-post-template' itemprop='blogPost' itemscope='itemscope' itemtype='http://schema.org/BlogPosting'> <meta content='https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CHORbEKRCfo/hqdefault.jpg' itemprop='image_url'/> <meta content='6576711027294728454' itemprop='blogId'/> <meta content='1537795488170253073' itemprop='postId'/> <a name='1537795488170253073'></a> <h3 class='post-title entry-title' itemprop='name'> <a href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/ozone-geo-4.html'>Ozone Geo 4</a> </h3> <div class='post-header'> <div class='post-header-line-1'></div> </div> <div class='post-body entry-content' id='post-body-1537795488170253073' itemprop='description articleBody'> <div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/CHORbEKRCfo?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0' /></div><br /><br /><span style="color: #999999;">The Geo 4 is the light version of the Buzz Z4. I found it very similar in flight which is superb !! despite the lighter cloth.</span><br /><span style="color: #999999;">Handling , brake pressure , comfort, pleasure in thermals, light speed bar ....really superb combination of light and efficient low end B. </span><br /><span style="color: #999999;">A must to try !</span><br /><span style="color: #999999;">See Buzz Z4 for a full review if needed. </span><br /><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhH1E_FBnZnc22kN5rC32339tI99y5eCwCzxEbJSw36KgzlpVmjc8UbRm_y8nTgLbOT6gL6FkPJEhlVjNOz_y0R7OdeCQ0rqLLESZYBT98hVij5fEVqa1heWFd_k6i1U358X91e8sZcPqTH/s1600/New+Project+5+4.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" height="225" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhH1E_FBnZnc22kN5rC32339tI99y5eCwCzxEbJSw36KgzlpVmjc8UbRm_y8nTgLbOT6gL6FkPJEhlVjNOz_y0R7OdeCQ0rqLLESZYBT98hVij5fEVqa1heWFd_k6i1U358X91e8sZcPqTH/s1600/New+Project+5+4.jpg" width="400" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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The lighter cloth helps positively with the glider lift. The Delta 2 was easy, the Alpina 2 is even easier ! <br /> <br />In the air : <br />I flew the D2 SM often to confirm that the feeling under the Alpina 2 SM is ‘different’ <br />How different ? <br />On the SM size i could feel that the Delta 2 liked to cut through thermals and it felt like a more compact solid glider going slightly positive searching the thermals, where on the Alpina 2 is more like a softer glider with neutral reactions when entering a thermal with a pitch zero response… <br /> <br />In fact the Alpina 2 moves a bit on its extremities a little more than a Delta 2 which moves more as a whole. Despite having slightly more roll movements in the air than the Delta 2, it has a softer reaction to turbulence. <br /> <br />The handling with similar loadings is a bit or should i say slightly less sharp than a delta 2 .It is very reactive to brake input but with a small dive in turns. So another approach a bit different than a D2 in turning is required by braking a bit the other side. <br />However the climbs are still brilliant… <br /> <br />Gliding on the Alpina 2 gives it’s passenger a pillow feel…Where the Delta would feel more rigid, the Alpina 2 looks like a soft cotton ball. ( I am being picky because they practically are the same gliders with different cloth) And there’s a difference ! <br /> <br />Two years ago when i tested the Delta 1 and the Alpina 1, the sharper one was the Alpina 1. <br />Now the sharper feel comes more from the Delta 2, rather than the Alpina 2. <br /> <br />Gliding power is there ! It floats nicely in the air. <br /> <br />Big ears are stable, but slightly less than a D2 and open also slightly faster. <br /> <br />Slow speed characteristics are also found exactly on the Alpina 2. <br /> <br />Conclusion : <br />Similar performance and lighter. As i am a handling freak, may be i am toward the sharper feel and efficient handling of the Delta 2, but the Alpina 2 delivers the same amount of superb performance with a lighter package. </span></span><br /><br /><span class="postbody"><span style="color: #cccccc;"><span style="color: red;">Update: <span style="color: #999999;">After some flights,i realized that the Alpina 2 has a slight better climb rate than the Delta 2 SM with same loadings.</span></span><span style="color: #999999;"><br /></span></span></span><br /><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><iframe allowfullscreen='allowfullscreen' webkitallowfullscreen='webkitallowfullscreen' mozallowfullscreen='mozallowfullscreen' width='320' height='266' src='https://www.youtube.com/embed/ckKyGyVc3mM?feature=player_embedded' frameborder='0' /></div><span class="postbody"><span style="color: #cccccc;"> </span><br /> </span></div> <div style='clear: both;'></div> </div> <div class='post-footer'> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-1'> <span class='post-author vcard'> </span> <span class='post-timestamp'> at <meta content='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/ozone-alpina-2-sm.html' itemprop='url'/> <a class='timestamp-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/ozone-alpina-2-sm.html' rel='bookmark' title='permanent link'><abbr class='published' itemprop='datePublished' title='2013-12-16T09:01:00-08:00'>December 16, 2013</abbr></a> </span> <span class='post-comment-link'> <a class='comment-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2013/12/ozone-alpina-2-sm.html#comment-form' onclick=''> No comments: </a> </span> <span class='post-icons'> <span class='item-control blog-admin pid-212699807'> <a href='https://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&from=pencil' title='Edit Post'> <img alt='' class='icon-action' height='18' src='https://resources.blogblog.com/img/icon18_edit_allbkg.gif' width='18'/> </a> </span> </span> <div class='post-share-buttons goog-inline-block'> <a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-email' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&target=email' target='_blank' title='Email This'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Email This</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-blog' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&target=blog' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=270,width=475"); return false;' target='_blank' title='BlogThis!'><span class='share-button-link-text'>BlogThis!</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-twitter' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&target=twitter' target='_blank' title='Share to X'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to X</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-facebook' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&target=facebook' onclick='window.open(this.href, "_blank", "height=430,width=640"); return false;' target='_blank' title='Share to Facebook'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to Facebook</span></a><a class='goog-inline-block share-button sb-pinterest' href='https://www.blogger.com/share-post.g?blogID=6576711027294728454&postID=475269429329552560&target=pinterest' target='_blank' title='Share to Pinterest'><span class='share-button-link-text'>Share to Pinterest</span></a> </div> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-2'> <span class='post-labels'> </span> </div> <div class='post-footer-line post-footer-line-3'> <span class='post-location'> </span> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div></div> </div> <div class='blog-pager' id='blog-pager'> <span id='blog-pager-newer-link'> <a class='blog-pager-newer-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2014-06-14T07:23:00-07:00&max-results=7&reverse-paginate=true' id='Blog1_blog-pager-newer-link' title='Newer Posts'>Newer Posts</a> </span> <span id='blog-pager-older-link'> <a class='blog-pager-older-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-12-16T09:01:00-08:00&max-results=7' id='Blog1_blog-pager-older-link' title='Older Posts'>Older Posts</a> </span> <a class='home-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/'>Home</a> </div> <div class='clear'></div> <div class='blog-feeds'> <div class='feed-links'> Subscribe to: <a class='feed-link' href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default' target='_blank' type='application/atom+xml'>Posts (Atom)</a> </div> </div> </div><div class='widget FeaturedPost' data-version='1' id='FeaturedPost1'> <div class='post-summary'> <h3><a href='https://difficulty3563.blogspot.com/2019/01/ozone-swift-5-s-size.html'>Ozone Swift 5, S size </a></h3> <p> Notes: In 2018-19, lots of manufacturers are delivering very nice gliders. 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